“…ROTAS/SATOR Square is a RIGHT BRAIN mnemonic for an ancient vortex theory that centered around the SWASTIKA”

Wow :idea:
Another breakthrough.

I had a link posted to my blog.

I finally got around to checking out the site.
The site of Alex Petty. 
http://www.alexpetty.com/page/2/


:shock:
*click*
It took me 20 seconds to match up the SATOR SQUARE with a VORTEX Math grid that can be found at that link above.
Inspiration is like that, I imagine.

YES
Alex Petty who did the work at that site, used Marko Rodin’s Vortex ideas, to arrive at his grid pattern that I have cropped below, and can be found at that link in its entirety.

And even better, Alex is a real life buddy of the fella who did the work on the CODE 144 Site re: Coral Castle


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Everything is falling into place quite nicely.
As expected. :mrgreen:
Cha cha cha cha
Wow

And of course I still ‘feel’ it is a match for Twistor String Theory.
I really should bring ole’ Roger Penrose and Edward Witten into the fray now.
Those guys need to pick mi asymmetrical brain…
What can I say?

So the LETTERS, the designations, used in Twistor Theory also match have you noticed?
Take a look below, we can clearly see a match between an OLD WORLD theory and something brand NEW.

WE also now have numerical correspondences…and of course we still need to see how the 4 AGES Model fits…because it got me this far… :wink:

Again folks what ole’ Raphael has accomplished using the swastika as symbolic guide and guru, helping me to remember, is establish that the SATOR/ROTAS SQUARE is a RIGHT BRAIN alpha-numeric puzzle, structured as a MNEMonic to help activate the mind.

An alchemical 5×5 magic square that the LEFT BRAIN ‘experts’ weaned on modern science (void of any Neo-Platonic alchemy or philosophy) could NOT quite figure out and understand its place in our evolving history.

However here I am bringing a TRUTH to the forefront by attempting to bridge/fuse the LEFT and RIGHT mind.
It took me about 6 years following an archetypal path?
Is that a rhetorical question?

Using clues found in BOTH science AND religion, building block clues offered by both evolution and creation.
What kind of narrative can we put together using both perspectives?

And I do feel that approach is what assisted my original intent to suss out those basic truths that unify all beliefs.

Again a reminder, my original intent 6+ years ago began as a quest to simply find the common denominators that all beliefs MUST share in, the intersections that do occur between people, events, places, experience, all are fractals which MUST in some way contribute too,  make up the whole of unity.

I have firmly established now that the ancients as far back as 79 AD had a THEORY in place, that today we are just re-discovering using LEFT brained math and physics, etc.

Marko, Alex and me have now shown that there is another way to understanding swirly, twirly swastika like objects.
I happened to arrive at the same place studying primarily ‘archetypes’.

I have thus PROVED that the ancients indeed had a vortex theory in place that got buried and has remained VEILeD for quite some time.
An ancient vortex theory connected to the much maligned swastika.

I am proud to say I only have grade 12 education plus life experience.
And I could have joined these dots with much leSS education, I feel this NEEDs to be recognized.
IF my mind body and soul had not been misled by those whose would prefer I remain IGNORANT.

Thus I feel confident and cocky (born in the year of the Chinese rooster), still strutting and contending that the 4 AGES Model I have recovered is a model for BOTH everything small, MICRO/quantum, i.e. the path of an electron AND everything big or MACRO, i.e. a star’s orbit,  and of course as I have maintained for years, it is a model for precession of the equinoxes too…

What was the source of the SS, the SATOR Square?
Evidently it was the ROTAS Square before it was ‘reversed’ at some point.
What was the source of the ROTAS Square?

Is this 5×5 magic square a KEY to solving GRAVITY and all those mysteries that were CREATED after the facts of life, the many patterns that seem to defy time, space and motion, look ago identified in nature itself?

Below we see  how the same letters are used in both the modern TWISTOR THEORY and the 2000 year old? … SATOR/ROTAS SQUARE.


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I quickly wrote down the important particulars along with the words PUBLIC DOMAIN.

We have already noted how nicely it meshes with Alex/Marko’s Vortex Based Mathematics…

NOW please note also how the LETTERs used in the ROTAS Square match up with Roger Penrose’s and Ed Witten’s TWISTOR THEORY.
Where E can be rotated into an M, W, or 3 or reflected as the same E, M, W, and 3

that could make 4 or 8

in the reflections they do not really change.
we are simply offered the same 4 shapes.

HOWEVER the N can be rotated through x,y,z, as first a rotation to a Z or 2 and then as a reflection as S or 5.

Hmm essentially the N can thus be seen as ‘2 5’ ?

Hello Marko welcome to Raphael’s version of the COSMIC BLENDER.

\mathbb{PT}^+ \simeq \mathrm{SU}(2,2)/\left[ \mathrm{SU}(2,1) \times \mathrm{U}(1) \right]

In \mathbb{M}^c, it is the case that positive and negative frequency solutions cannot be locally separated. However, this is possible in twistor space.

  • \mathbb{M}^c corresponds to the subspace of \mathbf{R}\mathbb{P}^5 corresponding to vectors of zero norm. This is conformally compactified Minkowski space.
  • \mathbb{PT} is a 3D complex manifold corresponding to projective twistor space.
  • \mathbb{PT}^+ is the subspace of \mathbb{PT} corresponding to projective twistors with positive norm (the sign of the norm, but not its absolute value is projectively invariant). This is a 3D complex manifold.
  • \mathbb{PN} is the subspace of \mathbb{PT} consisting of null projective twistors (zero norm). This is a real-complex manifold (i.e., it has 5 real dimensions, with four of the real dimensions having a complex structure making them two complex dimensions).
  • \mathbb{PT}^- is the subspace of \mathbb{PT} of projective twistors with negative norm.

\mathbb{M}^c, \mathbb{PT}^+, \mathbb{PN} and \mathbb{PT}^- are all homogeneous spaces of the conformal group.

\mathbb{M}^c admits a conformal metric (i.e., an equivalence class of metric tensors under Weyl rescalings) with signature (+++−). Straight null rays map to straight null rays under a conformal transformation and there is a unique canonical isomorphism between null rays in \mathbb{M}^c and points in \mathbb{PN} respecting the conformal group.

IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE N AND THE S UNDERSTAND?
N TO S IS ALONG THE Z AXIS.
I HOPE YOU DO SEE THIS RELATIONSHIP….BECAUSE IT IS CRITICAL TO SOLVINGG THIS PUZZLE, EVENTUALLY WE MUST TRY TO GET THREE SSS IN A ROW TIC TAC TOE IF WE WISH TO RETURN TO EDEN?

YES

THRICE SSS

SANCTUS!
SANCTUS!
SANCTUS!

WHY THRICE!

BECAUSE SS IS MERELY THE HOLY SPIRIT?

Wow, is this possible EVIDENCE of a Design put into place that we are being LEAD to?
A script that has already been written?

We are merely fulfilling potential?
The alchemist lord works in strange ways?

And the best part from my perspective?
I was scripted in to ‘recover’ this piece of the puzzle. :lol:

YES I did notice that the A and O have not been accounted for.BUT DID YOU NOTICE THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY 2 VOWELS.
WAS THE WORD, THE ‘LOGOS’ SPLIT IN TWO TOO AT SOME POINT IN SPACE-TIME?
INTO CONSONANTS AND VOWELS?

Is that where the THEORY of JESUS comes in?
HEY VANNA I VONNA BUY A FOWL VOWEL?

HERE WE ARE BACK TO THE WHEEL OF FORTUNA or CARD X OF THE TAROT, EZEKIEL’S WHEEL connected to the SWASTIKA, STILL BEING PLAYED ON PRIMETIME TV?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
VAKE UP COMRADES

The Alpha and the Omega?

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Using the Pyramid Cipher, “KNIGHTS TEMPLAR” can be encoded as “BNOHVSE SPZTGCM.” By using one or more filler letters, the cipher might look like “BNOHVSEOSPZTGCMY” with ‘J’ and ‘Q’ as encoded fillers (‘O’ and ‘Y’). Remember that ‘I’ can also be encoded as ‘O.’ The letters can be substituted with numbers to create a number cipher: “2-13-14-8-21-18-5 18-15-25-19-7-3-12.” After adding the ‘J’ and ‘Q’ fillers, the cipher would look like “2-13-14-8-21-18-5-14-18-15-25-19-7-3-12-24.” Knowing that numbers 1-25 represent the letters, a cipher message could mix in additional numbers up to 50 or 100. The person doing the decoding would remove all numbers above 25, leaving the real cipher numbers: “33-2-13-49-28-14-41-8-26-21-37-29-18-28-48-5” = “2-13-14-8-21-18-5” = “KNIGHTS.”
http://activstudios.spaces.live.com/

wow great huge huge clues given here.

NOTE how the CENTER square in ALL of the above ciphers is either connected to the LETTER N or the number 13. :idea:
Well I do like how the last 3 digits in KNIGHTS = 21-18-5
For some reason my gaze has been on these numbers 112?58 , the golden ratio has been my guide for some time now. :wink:

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SATOR SQUARE and the ROTAS SQUARE
(and this is IMPORTANT to note: the ROTAS SQUARE reportedly came first.)

Here is a cosmic game reduced to a magic square.
IF the middle square ‘N’ can be rotated and reflected into a Z, 2, 5 or ‘S’, then what if we are playing a cosmic game of tic tac dough?

i.e. please note we have two ‘S’ perched in the corners of the SATOR Square.
HOW do we get three or THRICE in a ROW along the NW/SE diagonal?
Ignore the ‘R’ that separates the ‘S’s for a moment, I will explain when I learn how to ‘transition’ between the different sizes of magic squares, thus reducing the 5×5 magic square (associated with Mars) down to a 4×4 magic square (Jupiter), and then eventually down to the 3×3 Lo Shu represented by Saturn.

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*UPDATE*
this image of the *ROTAS* Square might help us solve what to do with those two ‘R’s that stop us from forming THRICE ‘SSS’ in a Row.
Currently along the SW/NE axis, we have the letters SRNRS.
Hey Ezekiel does a ‘wheels within wheels’ analogy serve us well in this situation?
YES

In the above image of the ROTAS wheel, rotate the wheel in the above image that contains the two Ps and the two Rs, by 45 degrees, until they are hidden BEHIND the CROSS formed by the horizontal and vertical ‘FIXED’ cross displaying the words ‘TENET’.

AH HA!!!
Now we have only the letters S_N_S visible along the SW/NE axis and along the NW/SE axis only the letters R_N_R are visible?
Are you still following along?
The 2P and 2R are hidden behind the CROSS.
The 2PaiR have taken refuge somewhere behind the 4 letter E’s and 4T’s
Hiding behind the ETs?
Hope you can see that?

More associations you need to know re: 4 ET’s = 4 Evangelists who are definitely a part of the architecture of the FIXED CROSS represented by the 4 FIXED astrological signs, that we find on CARD X of the Tarot….which happens to be called Ezekiel’s Wheel. :wink:
These 4 FIXED zodiac signs have 4 stars identified by the Persians as far back as 2500-3000 BC.
These 4 stars were called both the 4 WATCHERS and the 4 ROYAL STARS.
These 4 stars or evangelists actually form a CROSS in the heavens, and within that CROSS we can position the GOLDEN SPIRAL.

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All of which can be associated also to the DENDERA Zodiac and the golden spiral (phi)
:arrow: https://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/0 … yal-stars/

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But try to get the ‘N’ in the center to look like an ‘S’ without reversing the two ‘ends’ during the same process…
PLEASE NOTE: Every time you manage to get the center to look like a ‘S’ the two ends resemble the letter ‘N’.
You need to understand how mirrors work to understand the above analogies.
Specifically to understand the reflection we see in the mirror is along the z-axis NOT the y-axis.
IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT.
remember the lesson by King Richard Feynman.

Is this the MAGIC we should or should NOT attempt to exploit, or tamper with?
hmm
Should we be conCERNed about Never A Straight Answer, (infiltrated by ‘Freemasons’) running the show?

keep reading please, especially until you get to the video below, not much further to go…
ALL OF THE ABOVE will soon make sense.

We know the following to be true, echos heard in the Vatican:
S = Sanctus
SS = Spiritus Sanctus = Holy Spirit = St. Peter and St. Paul

IF we can get the middle ‘N’ to resemble an ‘S’ then we have THRICE SSS
Santus! Sanctus! Sanctus!

So why does Holy-wood use 555 / SSS as their favorite telephone exchange in the movies?
E.T. phone home?

Now let’s take a look at the Marko Rodin logo.
You only need to watch the first 10 seconds of this video to appreciate where I am headed with this thought….

Please note the numbers 3, 6, 9 in this Rodin video.
These are the legendary/rumored TESLA numbers.
Please note that when the 3 and 6 are positive the 9 is negative.
And when the 9 is positive the 3 and 6 are negative.
NOTE: how the values change when the ‘crossover’ occurs.
A ‘crossover’ that appears just above the numbers 4 and 5.
A ‘crossover’ that might be related to a fella I stumbled across on these forums, who has calculated a musical 4.5 crossover frequency based on the Pythagorean Lambdoma.
256 notes placed onto a 16×16 grid

And of course the ‘coincidences’ do not end there.
The word nibiru translates to ‘to crossover or crossing’.

So what happens if we should align the 3 6 9 to be all positive values or all negative ones?

Thus clearly the magic of Tesla’s ‘3 6 9’ is somehow connected to the Pope shouting out…

“Sanctus! Sanctus! Sanctus!”

or
Holy! Holy! Holy!
or
Shakti! Shakti! Shakti!

Why always ‘3’ knocks on the door, why do Freemasons do things in threes?
And more importantly why are these THRICE meSSengerS always associated with ‘SOUND’? :wink:

duh
AUM
I don’t get it? :lol:

Clearly the SATOR/ROTAS SQUARE is part of a much higher knowledge attained, condensed into a mnemonic.
These magic squares are WINDOWS we can use to look through as we plod forward, with a bruised big TOE in search of that elusive Theory OF Everything.
IMHO

And if all of above has not made it OBVIOUS what these magic squares give us insight to is the following.

When you folks discuss polarity flips and reversals, don’t you think you should educate yourselves about the facts of life?

i.e. most folks begin their alphabets with learning about the ABCs of life….

I however start at the other end of the alphabet constructed by our sheeple brains.
The swastika and me apparently swim against the mainstream flow.
I toy with my awareness by trying to learn about z y x, and guess what w is?
And xyz-axis of power, is the language that physics would use to explain flips and reversals.

W = GRAVITY?

And the middle letter of a 25 letter alphabet (where I=J as in the SATOR cipher) is the reverse of the letter W, the letter M.
And the 13th letter (13=4) of the 26 letter alphabet is the letter M?
Thus M = 4?
And the 14th letter (14=5) is the letter N?
Thus N = 5?

But the SATOR SQUARE places the N in the center not the M.
I love how it all fits.
E = M, W and 3 (4 permutations)
N = Z, S, 5, 2 (5 permutations)
(a sixth if you include a ‘reverse’ N which of course looks like a Roman numeral VI = reverse N.)

I love the way the cosmos was put together.
fookin’ amazing how the ‘conicidences’ ALL fit.

no coincidences

deSIGN!
deSIGN!
deSIGN!

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Thus a seeker will ALWAYS find de signs in the design, that each of ewe and I AM are weaving together.
A dance between left and right, up and down, in and out, centered or on the periphery, dead or alive.

UPDATE

aianawa aianawa nui wrote:
am emotionally happy .1 tear, R A mean anything ? .lol

Ra Ra Ra
SiS boom go the baa?
:wink:

the ‘iSiS’ code reveals that the Alpha and the Omega, A + O = 16
16 is very important in how the SabeanS divided up the heavens.
:idea:

who were the Sabeans?
Semitic/Arabic astrologers/astronomers?

Quote:

The inhabitants of the ancient kingdom of Sheba in southeastern Arabia, known from the Bible, classical writers, and native inscriptions. The genealogies of Genesis give three pedigrees for Sheba, the eponymous ancestor of the Sabeans, who is variously termed (1) the son of Raamah and the grandson of Cush (Gen. x. 7; I Chron. i. 9; comp. Ezek. xxvii. 22, xxxviii. 13), (2) the son of Joktan and a great-great-great-grandson of Shem (Gen. x. 28; I Chron. i. 22), and (3) the son of Jokshan and a grandson of Abraham by Keturah (Gen. xxv. 3; I Chron. i. 32). There seem, therefore, to have been three stocks of Sabeaus: one in Africa (comp. the Ethiopian city of Saba mentioned by Strabo, “Geography,” p. 771), and the other two in Arabia. Of the latter one is connected with the story of Abraham, and the other with that of the kingdom localized by Gen. x. 30, including the Joktanites generally, and extending “from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar, a mount of the east.” In Job vi. 19 the Sabeans are mentioned in close association with the Temeans, an Ishmaelite stock (Gen. xxv. 15) that dwelt in Arabia (Isa. xxi. 14; comp. Jer. xxv. 23-24).

:arrow: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view. … 0&letter=S

And note the position of the ‘four 2 5’ in the SATOR SQUARE below.

WHY? :wink:

Maybe just maybe because Marko Rodin calls 25 the COSMIC BLENDER.
:arrow: viewtopic.php?p=229176#p229176

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THE SATOR MAGIC SQUARE – THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING – SOLVED?

CIPHER – THE ISISIAN CODES FROM THE ILLUMINATUS OBSERVOR

Some time ago, I found a web site called the Illuminatus Observor and have been studying it without stop. I have read and re-read this site over and over. I don’t have a math or physics background but tend to grasp the linguistics. So I do struggle along figuring out the math. His website is a study of the English language and how the elite have encoded it with certain esoteric truths. These truths are only known but to a very few. Once you start to delve into this site, you will find that the truth has been right in front of our faces the whole time. Our English language has been encoded to conceal and yet reveal all of the truth you would ever want or need.

:arrow: There is another person whose knowledge aided me in this and his name is Raphael :mrgreen: and he has a web site at https://kachina2012.wordpress.com/ I personally do not know either of these two persons yet I am most grateful for their information.

When reading Rapheal’s information, he disclosed that the Celtic Cross could be placed on the Sator Square and rotated as if it were a decoder. I first turned the inner 9 squares 2 notches or squares and it revealed from the top middle down – TRN RT (RIGHT), OPNE OR OPEN, then the ROTAS I took to mean the wheel, simply going to the root of the word. So I then took the outer wheel (all of the outside squares) and rotated it 1 complete turn. This flipped the puzzle, thus creating the ROTAS SQUARE. I am not sure which came first though, the chicken or the egg. Whether it’s a SATOR OR A ROTAS SQUARE, I don’t know.

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:arrow: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo … ead=170038


UPDATE

MihrYazd wrote:

Raphael have you checked out this little gem, The Mithraic Origin and Meanings of the Rotas-Sator Square

a quote from the book regarding 3+1

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I would love to get a copy of that book.
currently searching for one
is there a version available online?

BTW that book only has ’52’ pages.

and ’52’ is significant for many reasons.
besides the fact the Rotas/Sator square has ’25’ squares.

this next post below, showing two images :idea: lead me to this book that has only 52 pages re: the 25 Rotas (came first) Squares
how how how unifying, for a lack of a better word.
coincidence does not fit.

And the truth be known, before the more popular SS (sator square) was the RS (rotas square).

UPDATE

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The two images below link the 4 EVANGELISTS/4 Living Creatures/4 Beasts that we find on CARD X of the TAROT containing the CODE 11258, to the SATOR SQUARE… :idea:

the first one depicting the FOUR EVANGELISTS as the FOUR LIVING CREATURES along with the Sator Square.
the second one depicting the Sator Square inside a figure of Christ?, himself inside a star of david/hexagram, and surrounded by those same 4 Creatures now obviously the 4 Fixed Signs of the Zodiac.

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did you note the fact that those 4 Living Creatures/Zodiac signs are pulling the ‘wheel/circle’ in a COUNTERCLOCKWISE rotation.
Because precession of the equinoxes means to precess or go backwards, COUNTERCLOCKWISE or Anti-Clockwise…

and the best part, please note the page this gem was found on Lo Shu fans.

it starts on page 258 :lol: :lol:

LOOK HERE ON PAGE 258!!!!
:lol: could the clues be any more apparent?
gotta love it.

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In the gift/donation of Constantine being handed to Pope Sylvester we see what resembles the same architecture as the 4 directions the Sator Square can be read?

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namaste
_________________
KEY 528=Swastika=ancient Spherical Standing Wave Theory
“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…”
-Einstein

18 thoughts on ““…ROTAS/SATOR Square is a RIGHT BRAIN mnemonic for an ancient vortex theory that centered around the SWASTIKA”

  1. SSS

    isolate the 5×5 square in the center. See the NE-SW diagonal, 14541;
    this sequence is reciprocal to (an expansion of) 555

    The grid itself is from chapter four of “one to nine: the inner life of numbers”, and is formed by noting the last figure of each multiplication value.

  2. Google Analytics led me to your thread here. I see that a nice discussion is underway and some great ideas are being exchanged. Good stuff!

    A comment I must take issue with – someone stated here “Alex has an ego” 🙂 I found this amusing because anyone who knows me will tell you quite the opposite.

    This work I do, I do, in my own small way, for the benefit of everyone. I do this work as an expression of my sincere desire to understand the infinite force that set our human lives into motion within the miraculous Creation in which we find ourselves born.

    Many of the copyrighted drawings I make are part of my upcoming book and as such I am required by my publisher to post copyright on this work. .

    Anyhow. Keep up the good work in here.

    Carry on,
    Alex Petty

    • sorry Alex
      that comment was probably made by me, and it was made in haste

      my apology.
      What I meant to say was that Alex has an ego nearly half as big as mine, but he seems to get twice as much accomplished. 🙂
      Your work is very good, I must agree, carry on.

      namaste

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  5. Only briefly examined your site & much thanks. Will study more but was struck while reading that Celtic cross, (like your image of ROTAS square above), was intended to ROTAte/was used as a navigation tool. Have you seen this stuff:
    http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_5.htm

    Also: Thinking about RNR above. A standing wave consists of Node, Reflection pt, Node, Reflection, Node, R,N,R, etc ad infinitum. Check out these pics…
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6j6ehskr578u0zu/AABNAt5101Yj8WFrisFGwb56a?dl=0

    Also the pic of the human chromosome – made of DNA and RNA where N (nucleic) is the middle. The flip between the two?

    Does that fit somehow?

  6. Sir, im interested in the sator square, i found in it sincronicities with my life… my surname is in the square.. i read sator means a man who works the land, that´s what i do, i question if you know something about people who constantly find and see certain numbers in every event of their lifes, it happens to me with number 33 .. which could be 66.. i cannot understand the numerology of the square, i will continue to study, but this information is very complicated for me… do you imagine how the sator square relates to number 33 could you tell me? i thank you very much and will continue reading your page to understand more

    • continue reading
      use the search bar to help find topics

      33 could mean many things
      masonic levels, age of jesus when crucified, etc.

      there is a learning curve

      it could also be two triangles interlaced that become a 3D tetrahedron or a 2D star of david or …

      selah

    • place a swastika over the sator square.
      either way.
      coincidence much?

      also realize that hitler became chancellor in 1933.
      Jesus supposedly died at 33
      we have 33-34 vertebrae, masons have 33 degrees, few reach, those that do, quit studying the bible and swear on the Qu’ran, they accept Lucifer to be their God.
      bad stuff.
      in the biblical narrative, also in the book of enoch that didn t make it in the bible, (it is in Ethiopia): also Genesis 6 – talks about fallen angels coming down, mating with women…
      they are the third of the angels of the one true God, which of course isn t Satan (the accuser/opposer). the third of the angels represent a rebellion towards the Father.
      in 100%, a third is 33,333(3)…

      a biblical reference, understand the symbols:

      Revelation 12:3-4
      3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
      4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

      Revelation 12:9
      And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

      and the woman is the church (means simply a gathering of people, not a corrupt institution), the pure bloodline of unaltered humans (once you understand the Genesis 6 issue) through which a Savior could come much like in the way of Genesis 6:4, but this time from the Creator himself.

      also the place where the angels descended upon the earth supposedly is mount Herman.
      which is on the 33degree parallel if you have a particular measurement related to Easter island i believe. i cannot recall this info, check me out on this, you ll find something i m sure.

      Good luck, man!
      Find Jesus, don t get lost in Kaballah numerology.
      The false jews have this understanding, it is everywhere.
      knowing isn t bad. knowing is power. but power corrupts
      and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

      • Dear Bob did it ever occur to sheepish you reBLEATing bible babble that jesus is just another manifestation of an eternal archetype, one of many in a long line of copy cats?

        I am not lost in QaBaLaH numerology … a balance of the literal bullshit ye embrace and some prime time prime numbers building blocks suggest it is ye who needs to raise his self serving game and step down off the podium.

        All Creative Work Is Derivative Bob

        btw we are on an old blog of mine
        https://at37.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/the-temple-of-man-part-3-the-master-builders-grid/
        you need to upgrade to the new improved insights
        your cognitive bias will probably stop you from seeing the truth however

        the ignorant never see themselves as ignorant … and this is the first hurdle ye need to embrace … your own ignorance.

        clearly jesus who came AFTER many other similar concepts being passed forward is not original nor unique when you ‘compare’ instead of idolize like ye do sir.

        Jesus has become a graven image without a doubt Bob.

        https://i1.wp.com/www.tsbookshop.com.au/rscs/seal.gifnull

        There is no religion higher than the TRUTH, especially some of the nonsense that ye are preaching.

        If you should want to continue an earnest quest for TRUTH, ye can start here;
        https://at37.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/truth-recovery-step-1-there-is-no-religion-higher-than-the-truth/

        Have a nice day.

        selah V

      • for some reason i couldn t reply to your other post.
        archetype huh? if you re about to compare Jesus to Osiris, you re in way over your head.
        and if you re about to give me a link about Blavatsky, and tell me it s truth, you are again in way over your head. no arrogance in saying that, i can give you evidence.

        before we go any further, do you honestly believe the theosophical society has anything related to truth in it ? Blavatsky is a centerpiece for confusion. In between syncretism, and true Luciferian doctrine, she along with Crowley (mystic), Alice Bailey (her doctrines behind the UN), Albert Pike (don t even get me started), and complete self indulging nuts like Manley P. Hall, are centerpieces in the great unfolding deception, and persecution of those that know the real truth. it s a set up, to kill the innocent, but you will see this unfold before your very eyes.

        here s a quote i shall manually type from your beloved Blavatsky, from
        The Secret Doctrine.

        [ p.24 – header “The Secret Doctrine”. Last Paragraph ]

        “But there exists in the world another class of adepts belonging to a brotherhood also, and mightier than any other of those known to the profane. Many of these are personally good and benevolent, even pure and holly occasionally, as individuals.
        Pursuing collectively, however, as a body, a selfhish, one-sided object with relentless vigor and determination, they have to be ranked with the adepts
        [ p.25 – header “Black Magic at Work” >> ]
        of the Black Art. These are our modern Roman Catholic “fathers” and clergy. Most of the hieratic writings and symbols have been deciphered by them since the Middle Ages. A hundred times more learned in secret Symbology and the old Religions than our Orientalists will ever be, the personification of astuteness and cleverness, every such adept in the art holds the keys tightly in his firmly clenched hand, and will take care the secret shall not be easily divulged if he can keep it. There are more profoundly learned Kabalists in Rome and throughout Europe and America, than are generally suspected. Thus are the professedly public “brotherhoods” of “black” adepts more powerful and dangerous for Protestant countries than any host of Eastern Occultists. People laugh at Magic! Men of Science, Psychologists and Biologists, deride the potency and even the belief in the existence of what is called in vulgar parlance as “Sorcery” and “Black Magic”.
        The Archaeologists have their stonehenge in England with their thousands of secrets… ”

        little does she tell you that the catholics, the upper echelons of power, have murdered bible believing christians for thousands of years, and have suppressed scripture for as long as humanly possible in whatever ways they could manage.

        i urge you to rethink your position. we can then continue.
        Christ is what the scripture tells Christ is. the Lamb of God that takes away the blame of the world. Undoes the argument of the accuser, which is the meaning of satan.
        There is so much energy, culture, and so many movements against Jesus, even from within the Jewish spectrum, that it is unreal. get your facts straight.
        take care. and watch out. there is little time.

      • dear Bob ye are a boob
        please NO more of your jesus drivel dude
        jesus is a copy cat, get over it

        regarding Blavatsky, her offerings are no different then the unreal shit in the bible about jesus walking on water etc.

        GENESIS is a GENE-theSIS Bob.
        What if?

        dear Bob ye need to know ONE fact >>> All Creative Work Is Derivative

        That is great video followed now by a great blog Bob
        https://at37.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/the-temple-of-man-part-3-the-master-builders-grid/

        I hope ye enjoy both
        Jesus has a best before date …
        take care. and watch out. there is little time for boobs named bob

        selah

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